[Rails] Rails Vs JBoss Seam

[David Castañeda]

the real frustration to many people with j2ee is that they were using it in
projects that didn´t need j2ee, I think rails is great but for now and some
long time it won't compare to j2ee simply because the 2 frameworks are for
different problems... anyway I´m new to ruby and rails.

On 6/28/06, Obie Fernandez <obiefernandez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/28/06, Dennis_Byrne at ak.blm.gov <Dennis_Byrne at ak.blm.gov> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  > That's my 2 cents. And another: JSF sucks. Give me a good templating
> >  > engine anyday.
> >
> > Hello Obie,
> >
> > Have you taken a look at Facelets?
> >
> > Dennis Byrne
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
> Dennis,
>
> No I have not used Facelets. I don't really do anything Java-related
> anymore. The experiment with Seam was out of curiousity only.
>
> There were a couple of things I liked about Seam, especially how well
> EJB3 seems to work now. On the other hand, the complexity factor with
> Seam is extremely high compared to Rails.
>
> Gavin and I paired up to write a small subset of a story-card
> management tool that I have written in Rails. It took us at least 2
> hours of trial-and-error to get everything running and figure out how
> to send a plain list of divs to the browser. You see, creating a list
> of DIV tags is apparently not a common thing in the JSF world, so we
> had to dip into one of the standard JSP tag libraries and figure out
> how to use an iterator tag in conjunction with other Seamy stuff.
> Anyway, it's hard to describe the frustration without going into a
> bunch of boring details. I didn't walk away from the experience
> feeling any chance that Seam will make it big in the same way that
> Rails has. It is extremely complicated, because the guys writing it
> are not application developers themselves, so they have no idea the
> pain they are inflicting on the people out there (or in some cases
> they really don't care about the pain, because it is the status quo).
>
> Obie
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